CafeLitt 181: Persia and Greece, Revisited

Wed 25 Aug 2010, 19:00, by Yusef Amiri, at Bistro Burritoville:3rd floor, 2055 Rue Bishop, Montreal,QC (Map)

Western media and historiography have exaggerated a lot about the relation of Persian Empire and Greece and presents a distorted picture and imbalanced view which blows the importance of Greece out of proportion. This trend actually started in the Classical Greece itself and has continued to our day. We hear ridiculous claims such as 'Greeks saved the civilization and guaranteed human freedom and liberty by defeating Persia' or clichés such as 'Eastern tyranny' and so.
In the past couple decades this view has been questioned and critical research has started to reveal the true picture of Persian Empire and its relations with Greece. In this talk we are going to have a look at the history of Greece and introduce these new efforts and as an example, look at the Battle of Marathon, the first major event in the so-called 'Greco-Persian Wars'.


Comments:

With all due respect to the orator of session:

1) I believe, any attempt to magnify and exaggerate "having" has a root in lack of "being".
Unfortunately, this sense of shortage in "being" among some of us yields to spin yarns

2) Whenever you ask the believers of "The Great Empire" about the intellectual products of that era, the same answer comes up: "They were destroyed!". How come there is no reference from Achaemenid Empire! in the successors dynasties. Even the latest reference of Ferdowsi backs to Arsacid dynasty.

3) Assuming whatever claimed in this session really happened (which opens to doubt), SO WHAT?

x at Fri 27 Aug 2010

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